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pipistrellafelixWoke up horrendously late again. I hate doing that. I feel useless. More broken dream-images floating around in my head. I keep wanting to write them down and then not remembering enough of them to feel like I can. Five days in a row now. Does that mean something? They're all different, but they all have the same oversoul feeling.
Left the house with dad, to get away from the stain smell on the porch. Looks pretty, smells awful....
Gave my passport application to the lady at the counter, chatted and signed things, wandered up the Ave for a while. We went to the bookstore and looked at products from the Unemployed Philosopher's Guild (who are these people, and can I work for them?). Dolls of da Vinci, Wilde, Woolf and so forth...a Henry VIII and His Disappearing Wives Mug (pour in a hot drink and watch all of Henry VIII's wives disappear--even Katherine Parr, who survived!). A Neitzche Will Above Power nutritional bar--chocolate of course. Think Beyond Good and Evil.
We went to the Starbucks on Roosevelt where we paid for two tall hot chocolates with two dollar bills and a pile of coins. I sat and drank chocolate and ate potato bread and cheese and read Homer. (I like Nestor. He's smart. Agamemmon and Achilles are getting on my nerves.) Then dad and I talked, and god was it bizarre...
Philosophical discussions with my dad always are.
We see time as a sequential happening, but in the universal view of space-time it's all one point in time. Everything is one point in time, not even between a beginning and an end, because those are points in time encompassed within the everything. My dad says, "make a film about that." I say, "and it will happen all at once, and no one will understand it."
So if that's true, where do we get these ideas of things happening in sequence?
There's nine tenses: Past, present and future; and then each of those in relation to each other (past-past, past-present, past-future; present-past, etc). (Must read The Education of Oversoul Seven.)
We have a hard time remembering things from early childhood because we don't have enough memories yet to create a timeline to anchor them on.
God is above time. This whole creationist-evolutionist debate becomes silly if you look at it from God's perspective. Yes, he did create everything in six days. And six billion years. It's the same thing, can't you see? There is no time from that far away.
Another book--the planet slowly becomes a planetary mind, then links itself in with the star minds, to become a galatic mind...this happens more and more until everything is one universal mind, at which point we don't have enough evergy to sustain ourselves, so we disappear. But in that last moment of realization they know that we're just one in a series of universes that the starmaker is trying out, perfecting something each new time around.
There are some thoughts I can't wrap my mind around. I try to think of things that will happen after I die because the thought of nothingness is...not so much scary as simply incomprehensible.
My dad says, maybe dying is like falling into a black hole. Fabulous, I say, that's comforting. No, he says--when you fall into a black hole, from the outside it looks instantaneous--bang, they're gone--but to the person falling, time slows down more and more as you go. if you keep going it just stops. That's also very comforting, I say.
But god is dead, we decide, because he's fallen so far through the black hole that time doesn't matter. So Neitzche was right when he said god was dead; he just didn't go far enough. Is chocolate beoyond Good and Evil, then?
My mind is confused. But god it was fun.
(And this god person...I don't know, he's kind of cool. He's said hi a couple times. Got a nice voice, you know.)
It's beautifully windy outside.
Left the house with dad, to get away from the stain smell on the porch. Looks pretty, smells awful....
Gave my passport application to the lady at the counter, chatted and signed things, wandered up the Ave for a while. We went to the bookstore and looked at products from the Unemployed Philosopher's Guild (who are these people, and can I work for them?). Dolls of da Vinci, Wilde, Woolf and so forth...a Henry VIII and His Disappearing Wives Mug (pour in a hot drink and watch all of Henry VIII's wives disappear--even Katherine Parr, who survived!). A Neitzche Will Above Power nutritional bar--chocolate of course. Think Beyond Good and Evil.
We went to the Starbucks on Roosevelt where we paid for two tall hot chocolates with two dollar bills and a pile of coins. I sat and drank chocolate and ate potato bread and cheese and read Homer. (I like Nestor. He's smart. Agamemmon and Achilles are getting on my nerves.) Then dad and I talked, and god was it bizarre...
Philosophical discussions with my dad always are.
We see time as a sequential happening, but in the universal view of space-time it's all one point in time. Everything is one point in time, not even between a beginning and an end, because those are points in time encompassed within the everything. My dad says, "make a film about that." I say, "and it will happen all at once, and no one will understand it."
So if that's true, where do we get these ideas of things happening in sequence?
There's nine tenses: Past, present and future; and then each of those in relation to each other (past-past, past-present, past-future; present-past, etc). (Must read The Education of Oversoul Seven.)
We have a hard time remembering things from early childhood because we don't have enough memories yet to create a timeline to anchor them on.
God is above time. This whole creationist-evolutionist debate becomes silly if you look at it from God's perspective. Yes, he did create everything in six days. And six billion years. It's the same thing, can't you see? There is no time from that far away.
Another book--the planet slowly becomes a planetary mind, then links itself in with the star minds, to become a galatic mind...this happens more and more until everything is one universal mind, at which point we don't have enough evergy to sustain ourselves, so we disappear. But in that last moment of realization they know that we're just one in a series of universes that the starmaker is trying out, perfecting something each new time around.
There are some thoughts I can't wrap my mind around. I try to think of things that will happen after I die because the thought of nothingness is...not so much scary as simply incomprehensible.
My dad says, maybe dying is like falling into a black hole. Fabulous, I say, that's comforting. No, he says--when you fall into a black hole, from the outside it looks instantaneous--bang, they're gone--but to the person falling, time slows down more and more as you go. if you keep going it just stops. That's also very comforting, I say.
But god is dead, we decide, because he's fallen so far through the black hole that time doesn't matter. So Neitzche was right when he said god was dead; he just didn't go far enough. Is chocolate beoyond Good and Evil, then?
My mind is confused. But god it was fun.
(And this god person...I don't know, he's kind of cool. He's said hi a couple times. Got a nice voice, you know.)
It's beautifully windy outside.
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Date: 2004-09-09 02:20 am (UTC)"God is above time. This whole creationist-evolutionist debate becomes silly if you look at it from God's perspective. Yes, he did create everything in six days. And six billion years. It's the same thing, can't you see? There is no time from that far away."
I agree... who is to say God has a human perception of time?
Oh, and I have a little paper bag of pins from England that I do believe you left at my house. And a small ice cream spoon. Ring any bells?
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Date: 2004-09-09 02:57 am (UTC)Wow..
Date: 2004-09-09 04:00 am (UTC)Oh, and time, among many other things, is a human invention meant to control the universe so our tiny little brains can comprehend it. God's brain is so big he doesn't have to worry about time, just about how far back this black hole goes.. ;)
-Patrick
Re: Wow..
Date: 2004-09-09 04:03 am (UTC)-Patrick
Re: Wow..
Date: 2004-09-09 06:07 pm (UTC)Re: Wow..
Date: 2004-09-09 06:08 pm (UTC)Well, philosophical discussions at what...2am? are always a bit doomed from the start anyhow...:)
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Date: 2004-09-09 04:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-09 07:23 pm (UTC)I remember having long discussions with a friend about whether or not the world is real or whether it is all in the mind and imagination of one person. How do we know something is real? We both graduated before we ever reached a conclusion to the debate.
But chocolate is neither good or evil, it's simply... delicious.
Hey Tano, do you mind if I put you in my friends list? I'm kinda new to this LJ and I want to see what it does... :p
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Date: 2004-09-09 10:23 pm (UTC)Chocolate is beyond good and evil.